Finally, Some Good Information about Those Nasty Wool-Eating Clothes Moths

 

moth hole in pantsClassic moth damage on wool fabric

 

Can you tell I hold a grudge here?  Hmm.  Well, let’s get down to it.  There are a lot of confusing “facts” and misinformation about clothes moths out there.  I’ve developed a system for dealing with them that works well for me, but I still wanted to know, from a scientific perspective, what actually kills them?  What temperatures can they tolerate?  What about water, can you drown moth eggs? Etc.  Some of these questions remain unanswered, and I’d still like to team up with an entomologist some day and nail down some specifics.  BUT (this is a big but) not long ago I stumbled on this post at Juniper Moon Farm.  They are doing some great stuff over there, and this was no exception.  The author, Lisa Stockebrand, lays out some specific advice which I heartily agree with: cleaning is the best response to finding moths in your wool, and you can kill all stages of them with heat or by freezing.

After I read this, I told Bryan about it, and how, even though of course I’d like it if our house was 100% moth-free (it’s not—they were here when we moved in—and it won’t be until all the old carpet is gone, all the baseboards are removed and cleaned behind, etc.) and of course I’m bummed that they have done damage in the past, at this point I’d rather have a system that works for dealing with them.  Sure, it’d be great to have a completely moth-free home, but as soon as one of my knitting buddies accidentally brings over an infested ball of yarn, it’s not moth-free any more, and so I would stick with my system even if I did think we were free and clear.

Less than a week after this discussion, I took a bunch of my felt samples to a small event, where they were displayed right next to an item which had clear moth damage, cocoons on it, etc.  So I had a bunch of felt to treat when I got home, and that got me thinking that now is as good a time as any to let you all know what I know about wool moths so far.

 

They Do Exist

Unfortunately clothes moths are alive and well in the 21st century.  I guess people who have never heard of them grew up in the age of acrylic (actually worse than moths in my opinion).  Those folks definitely have not cleaned out the houses of older relatives who worked with wool!

Although the moths themselves are definitely up to no good, scouting around for your most precious garments to lay their eggs on, it’s the larvae that actually eat the wool.  They also eat fur, and mixed fibers containing wool or other animal fibers, and can survive on dust bunnies alone, especially if said dust bunnies contain pet hair.  Supposedly they also eat silk, although I have never seen one on a pure silk garment.  There are two common kinds of wool moths (at least here in the US) and they both look pretty much alike: usually tiny (less than a centimeter long) shiny golden moths with tattered-looking edges to the wings, and red eyes.  The eggs are incredibly tiny, and the larvae, when they first hatch, are practically transparent, and thinner around than a sewing thread.

How, pray tell, do I know that last part you may ask?  Well, one time, years ago, we came back from a long trip and there were quite a few moths flying around the house (the woolens were packed away but I was still pretty mad).  After crushing the first couple dozen I could catch, I decided to capture a few and leave them in jar to see what would happen, in the spirit of “know your enemy.”  Probably the most interesting and disturbing thing I found out was just how practically invisible the larvae are when they first hatch.  I could easily give an item a thorough inspection and not see one at all.  Probably the second most interesting thing I found out was that yes, a couple of days in my freezer does seem to kill them.

 

moth and larvaIf you click on the links at the bottom of Lisa’s post, some of them have photos of actual moths.

 

 

They Can’t Eat It if You’re Using It

This is the most important thing I’m going to write in this post, so take note: moths are not a threat to woolens you’re using, only those you’re storing.  I have lots of wool clothes, and I just love them.  I wear them all winter long, without worrying a bit that little things with wings will attack them.  That’s because if you’re wearing something, it’s out and about, it’s in the light (which clothes moths don’t like), it’s brushing up against other things, it’s being cleaned and then worn again … in other words, even if a moth did lay eggs on it, chances are very high the eggs would be destroyed or brushed off before they hatched.

 

Store it Well if You’re Not Using It

When the weather warms up, I wash my woolens, bit by bit usually, and store them for the summer, in a suitcase in the garage.  Dirty clothes are more likely to attract moths, not to mention it’s not good for the fabric to let stains and oils just sit there.  In a weird way I kind of love doing this, and especially love opening up the suitcase in the fall when it’s full of wonderful things for winter.  I hand wash everything except a large rug and my not-me-made coat, which go to the cleaners.

I also use plastic tubs to store yarn and fabric scraps, and some plastic bags inside those as well.  When I worked at a museum, I learned that airtight plastic bags are not really a good choice for long term storage of textiles, you want some airflow, otherwise the air in the bag will become different enough from the air outside that just taking the textile out can damage or destroy it.  But while plastic bags aren’t the best choice for preserving your grandmother’s wedding dress, they should be fine for keeping your yarn stash organized, as long as you open them now and then.  In my mind, the absolutely ideal container for wool storage is one that seals tight to moths but not to air, which is why I use a suitcase (with a tight closing zipper) for summer storage.  Whatever you use, make sure it closes tight enough to keep a little moth from wandering in.  Moths can eat through paper bags and cotton to get what they want, but they only will if what’s in there really grabs their attention.

Cold definitely slows moths down, and may kill them if the conditions are right.  I’ve had good results storing wool for felting, and materials for making my cashmere hats, in big plastic tubs that stay on my back porch year round.  About half the year, it’s pretty cold out there, and usually freezes at night.  I keep my knitting yarn bin out there for part of the winter too.  The rest of the time it stays in the garage.  I’ve also had good results storing wool yarn and fabric scraps that I’m not going to use right away in the garage, either in plastic tubs or in a cardboard box with the seams taped shut.  Again: treat/clean things, then store them.

 

Two Mistakes You Don’t Have to Make

As my friend Tom says, “You don’t have to make this mistake, I have already made it for you.”

1.  Don’t bring home a new wool rug without having it cleaned, especially if it’s imported and/or has been stored for a while.  Seriously, take it straight to the cleaners when you buy it, then bring it home.  Same thing with any old yarn or sweaters someone donates to you.  Treat them (see below), then wash them, then use them.

2.  Don’t assume that something which has been hanging in your closet for a while is moth-free, and put it away.  Treat it and/or clean it every time before you store it.

 

How to Kill Clothes Moths

If you find moths in your house, I can’t recommend a better strategy than what’s in Lisa’s article, which I linked to at the top.

It appears, from the incident with the jar of moths as well as other anecdotal evidence, that the ordinary freezer attached to my fridge is enough to kill moths, although that has not been scientifically proven for all stages of moth life.  There was also an incident in which a moth attack got started in a storage bin (see 2. above) but then halted, and the larvae appeared dead when I found them.  I have a theory that, while the temperature was not low enough to kill the eggs, at some point it did freeze hard enough to kill the larvae.  This was in the garage.  This is just a theory.

When I brought home my felt samples that were possibly exposed to moth eggs, I decided to try treating them with heat, since I could cycle through everything I needed to treat in a day, rather than over weeks if I used the freezer.  Lisa recommends temps over 120° F for at least 30 minutes.  Washing in water over that temp also works, but I decided I’d rather keep the wool dry so that I could store it right away.  I’ve also steamed small amounts of yarn above boiling water, the way you would a vegetable, and that should work as well, as long as the heat penetrates to the middle of whatever you’re steaming.

I did put a pan of hot water on the lowest oven rack, so that the heat I was exposing the wool to wouldn’t be completely dry.  The lowest temperature my oven will set at is 170° F, and I went for 200° just for good measure.  I put an old towel directly on the middle oven rack, and put the wool items, not too many at a time so that the heat had a chance to penetrate, on top of that, and set the timer for 40 minutes before taking them out and putting in the next batch. At the end, the only thing that showed any signs of scorching was where the towel touched the sides of the oven, so I suggest folding your towel so that it doesn’t touch the oven walls.  I keep a baking stone on the top rack of my oven, and I left it there to hold heat.  If you wanted to, I think you could also do two racks of wool at a time, as long as you allow time for the oven to heat back up after you load everything in.

wool in oven When one batch was done, I put it somewhere clean, and while the last batch was heating, I wiped out the plastic storage bin I keep the felt samples in with a damp cloth, and let it dry in the sun.  The cleaning part always seems like no fun at first, but once I’m doing it, it occurs to me that it was high time anyway, and it feels good in a spring-cleaning kind of way.  When I put the samples back in the bin I felt confident that they were good to go.

This is in Lisa’s article, but I’d like to emphasize it: please please do not use mothballs.  This is another thing I learned from working at the museum: mothballs are truly horrible, they are toxic to all kinds of creatures, including me.  I’m pretty sure I left a few brain cells behind while going through their collection of furs.

 

And Finally, Spiders

A thought about spiders: another time we returned from our summer journeys to find that moths had hatched in the house, but this time most of them were in a spider web in the studio.  Ever since then, I have let spiders be in the house (except if they’re in the sink, the bathtub, or building a web somewhere very inconvenient) instead of trying to relocate them outside.  It started me thinking that the spiders, being so much smaller than I am, and adapted to eat bugs, and hungry, might be much much better than I was at finding moth larvae under the edges of the carpet, etc.

I can’t say for sure what difference leaving the spiders has made, but I will say that over the past few years, all these strategies combined have meant that I only see a couple of moths a year (and, um, SQUASH them) and more importantly, I’ve managed to keep all the things I care about from getting munched on.

There’s a lot here (phew!), but I still promise to update/post more as I learn more!

 

48 thoughts on “Finally, Some Good Information about Those Nasty Wool-Eating Clothes Moths

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  2. Thank you. I had a most infestation recently. They got my stash, my handknit lace shawls, and my husband’s stack of sweaters. I cleaned the house thoroughly and all of these things have been in the freezer until I get up the energy to deal with them. I am a little nervous about sticking them in the oven but plan on trying your technique!

    • Oh no! If they’ve been in the freezer for quite a while, the moths are probably dead already. You could just get out a few things at a time, repair and clean them, and then store them carefully. Of course, you can put them through the oven as well to be safe. Good luck!

  3. Hi Tasha. Thanks so much for this post, and for your link to Lisa’s helpful article. I’ve just discovered moths on a wool carpet that was rolled up in a closet upstairs. Before I found the moths the carpet was moved to the living room. I have a new baby and have to direct my cleaning time to the highest priority items to try to control the moths. From what I’ve read, I need to treat / clean all fabric items that were in the closet with the carpet, even of there’s no sign of larvae on the item, just to be safe, do you agree? Do I also have to throw out or clean non fabric items, like open boxes containing gift bags and wrapping paper? What about a hat box and hats it contained? How do I clean those? What do you recommend wiping the inside of the closet with? The closet door was often left open – do I have to wash clean cotton baby clothes that were sitting right in front of the closet in laundry baskets? Any thoughts re what I need to do / clean in the living room where the carpet sat for a week before I noticed the moths? I’ve seen a flying moth in the living room downstairs, and another in the nursery on a baby towel hanging in the back of the nursery door. So sorry for all the questions. The room the carpet was in is supposed to be the nursery and am just so overwhelmed trying to figure our how to tackle this! Any advice would be a huge help! Thank you.

    • Hi Sarah, sorry to hear about your moth problem! So, first I would get the carpet out of the house if you haven’t already. Wrap it in plastic if you have a some big enough, and take it to the cleaners. If it’s still freezing at night where you live, you could leave it somewhere outside for a couple of nights first to kill any live moths/larvae.

      I would clean all fabric that was in the closet, starting with anything wool. I would also wash non-wool fabrics that have been in the closet, just in case they have eggs on them. Moths can’t eat plant fibers like cotton, but I’ve seen them perch on cotton towels etc. at my house when they couldn’t find any wool, and probably lay eggs there. I’d imagine your piles of baby clothes will get washed/worn pretty quickly, in which case I wouldn’t worry about giving them an extra wash, unless they’re going to be stored for a while.

      For the rest of the items and the closet/living room, you shouldn’t need to wipe things down, just vacuum and dust as thoroughly as you can, and send any other wool carpets to be cleaned as well. Anything in a sealed container should be safe. I’ve had good luck with wool hats by vacuuming them for dust and any possible moths, and storing clean in something with a tight-fitting lid. If you find moths in a box with wool hats, I would freeze, heat treat or send the hats to be professionally cleaned. As far as things like paper, I would just go through them and make sure there aren’t any moths currently hiding there. Any larvae that hatch in a bag of paper shouldn’t survive because they won’t have the right proteins to eat.

      Be extra careful with other wool items in your house, like sweaters, especially if you’re storing them for the summer, clean every one before putting it away, and make sure the storage box is moth-proof. Since you’re going to need to do this in stages, you might consider putting anything wool that you’re not currently wearing in a freezer (or a bin outside if it’s cold) and then getting things out and washing them a few at a time as you have time (or send the whole bunch out to be cleaned).

      I just finished reading The Intentional Spinner by Judith MacKenzie McCuin, which has a section on the back about moths and mice, including some good suggestions on chemical treatments if you decide you need to go that route, and I found her thoughts very complete and helpful.

      I hope that helps! Good luck!

      • Sarah I am so sorry you are going through this with a new baby! Tasha, I purchased two moth traps. I have two clothes closets next to each other. One closet I found three moths (in one month) in the trap and the other closet none. One time in my living room I found one on my window in the living room (only one so far) why would that happen? I vacuum every day. My question is, right now it is 28 degrees, unfortunately it is going up to 45 degrees in a few hours, but for the next few nights it will be in the 30’s. Is that cold enough to kill moths? I live in a high rise so I don’t have a garage that I have access to, but I have a balcony. I just put an empty suitcase out on my balcony so if there are any moths they will die? I am using the suitcase to store my wool sweaters for the summer. I am going crazy, first time I every had moths and I have been around for a long time. lol I can’t bring myself to put items in my stove or freezer, I don’t want moths anywhere by my kitchen.
        Thanks for your help!

        • Hi Chris,

          I understand being squeamish about the moths, but they aren’t the same kind that eat flour or food, so it doesn’t really matter if they are in your kitchen …
          As far as I know, freezing kills adult moths and larvae. If I were you I would wash all the woolens that you want to store for the winter, and as they are dry, put them in the suitcase on the balcony. Once everything you want to store is in there, you can put the suitcase wherever you want, although it wouldn’t hurt to leave it on the balcony as long as it’s freezing at night. I hope that helps!

  4. I have been battling clothes moths since March. I thought I had gotten rid of them but I found them again last month. The first time around I had put all the clothes in the laundry at 60 degrees but this time around I am trying the oven method. I bake each batch of clothes at 70C for an hour or two and I must say it is a heck of a lot easier than washing everything and waiting for it to dry. I really really hope that it works because I am so sick of those disgusting larvae…

    • Hi Ariana, yeah it’s totally gross and disheartening when you find the larvae! Keep in mind that they could be hiding somewhere (like under the baseboards, eating pet hair, etc.) and could come back again. The best advice I can give you is to make sure you clean the area as thoroughly as you can, as well as the clothes.
      I wouldn’t say that I’ve reached peace with the moths, but I have accepted that they live pretty much everywhere. Since I have friends who also do fiber arts, and so wool and textiles coming in and out of the house, I do think it’s better to expect that moths could and probably will show up again, and prepare accordingly. The good news is that since I started being very careful about how things are stored, nothing has been eaten, even though I’ve seen moths in the house since. Good luck!

  5. i had moths get hand knits and yarn that was in 2 tight fitting bins, including an airlock bag inside one of the bins! I am beside myself. I wear something and immediately put it back in the bin.. can they really get into plastic bins???

    • Argh—how frustrating! They can’t eat through thick plastic, but they can crawl through the tiniest holes. Sometimes bins that look like the lid fits tightly actually have little fins of plastic that keep the lid from making contact with the top of the bin all the way around (in which case I choose a different bin for wool storage). Or they may have air holes made on purpose, often under the handle (which I usually cover with thick tape).
      The other possibility (unfortunately this has happened to me) is that something you thought was clean when it went into the bin actually had moth eggs on it already. Obviously you’ll need to treat everything that was in the bins when they were contaminated as if it has eggs before storing it again. The oven or steamer method is probably the best for yarn.
      When storing yarn or things you don’t need access to all the time, it may help to find a cold place to keep the bin, like the garage, shed, back deck etc. Moths move much slower in the cold, and if you live somewhere with cold winters, freezing temperatures can kill larvae and adults.
      If you have a bin that you’re moving garments in and out of during the winter, it’s still important to wash everything and clean out the bin before you store it over the summer, or for more than a week or so, just in case something made contact with moth eggs.
      I hope some of that helps!

  6. I have found a few balls of stored yarn with a few shredded strands on the outside of the balls. I also have several balls with no apparent damage. What is the best way to purge the nasty critters? Can I leave the yarn as is or do I have to open each one up? Also, is there a concern with using a dryer for heat? If put in the freezer, how long is a sufficient amount of time to kill everything off?

    • I would steam the yarn balls, both those that have shredded strands, and any that were stored with them, even if they look Ok. Steam them like you would a vegetable, suspended over boiling water in a pot, and try to make sure that no hot water can wick up into the yarn, since that can cause colors to run if the dye isn’t set. Or use the oven method to heat treat. It should be alright to leave the yarn in balls, as long as you allow time for the heat to penetrate to the center. This is probably obvious, but, remove any paper bands/labels from the yarn balls before you try either of those methods. The dryer won’t get hot enough to kill moth eggs and larvae, you need temperatures above 120° F.
      Freezing things kills moths and larvae, but not the eggs. An alternative (which I just read in The Spinner’s Book of Fleece by Beth Smith) is to freeze for a couple of days, take things out of the freezer for about 2 weeks (long enough for any eggs to hatch) and then freeze for a few days again. Hope that helps!

  7. Hi, It’s amazing how hard it is to find good information on this topic. Appreciate your article. We recently discovered moths in our wool rug only the part that was under the couch. It is a knotted rug, so there are lots of good hiding places.😦 We vacuumed out all we could, then wrapped it in plastic and took it to the dry cleaners. Got our rug back after about 3 weeks (combination of cleaning time and us not picking it up) to find last night that there are still eggs on the one side – no moths and some dead looking larvae. Part of me just wants to throw it out before it causes the entire house to be infested. Was my rug not cleaned properly or does dry cleaning not get rid of it? I would really appreciate your advice as putting it in the freezer is obviously not an option and we are in the South…so it’s going to be a few months before we get to freezing at night. Thanks!

    • I know! I’ve been getting a lot of questions/comments on this post lately, and I think I need to contact an entomologist. There must be some basic proven science about what kills moths and what doesn’t, but there sure are a lot of myths circulating.
      In the meantime, Judith MacKenkie McCuin says in The Intentional Spinner that dry cleaning works because all the oils and any stains from the wool are removed, meaning that the moths lack an essential part of their diet and can’t survive by eating your rug. It doesn’t sound like the cleaners did a very good job though, if there are still larvae on it. I think you’d have a case for taking it back and asking them to clean it again. You could also ask them to steam it thoroughly, since again the high heat should kill all stages of moths.
      After being worried about it for a while, I’m comfortable having wool rugs in my house now, even though I know that we still have a few moths (see above). I have wool rugs in the open, where they get a lot of light and traffic. You do need to be able to vacuum the whole surface of the rug regularly, even if that means moving the couch. I vacuum my rugs about every week, and have them cleaned or wash them at least once a year, and right away if I ever suspect any moths may have laid eggs there. Good luck!

  8. Hi, Tasha, I too am grateful for your article as it is so helpful to read about someone’s personal experience with these awful pests. I’m dealing with an outbreak — first ever in the almost 20 years I’ve been living in my house, and I have no idea where they came from! Based on all I’ve read, I *think* I’m killing off the first generation of larvae…which means, there are probably adult moths in my house, ughh, and they’re laying eggs somewhere… I have what I thought was a mild phobia of insects but every encounter has had me in panic and even just reading about it is stressful.😦 Anyway, to get to my point — do you think tumble-drying clothes on high heat would kill the eggs, and would it be worth doing, for the entire contents of the infested closet? I feel I should do it, if only for my peace of mind. I suppose even wool could be tumble-dried on high heat without damage, as long as the clothes are dry to begin with? The majority of the clothes are cotton, viscose etc blends; fortunately most wool sweaters were in plastic sealed boxes with lids, though sadly the moths ate a couple that were not. I’m most alarmed at seeing a site of infestation in two different rooms although they could have been carried there on infested clothes… I haven’t seen any adult moths at all, but I suppose they fly around in the dark.

    • Hi Lin, sorry about your moths! It is icky and stressful, especially the first time you figure out what’s going on.
      Unfortunately, the heat of a dryer just isn’t hot enough to kill the eggs. For peace of mind, you could wash and dry anything/everything in the closet as you normally would. But you don’t have to, the moth eggs aren’t a danger to cotton/viscose, and can’t survive if they hatch on plant fibers, so only do it if it makes you feel better. Of course, anything wool that might have been exposed you should definitely wash, steam, and store carefully. Incidentally, I wouldn’t put wool in the dryer, even dry, just the littlest bit of moisture combined with all that heat and tumbling around could cause felting.
      The adult moths are sneaky little buggers, hiding from the light and scurrying around the floor rather than flying, so they can be hard to spot.
      I hope this helps!

  9. How do you remove the eggs and larvae from the inner seams on clothing once they have been washed in HOT water and dried on HIGH heat for entire dry cycle and then agsin for 20 mins HIGH timed heat?

    • Usually I just brush off remaining moth materials with my fingers or a brush, outside, away from the house a bit, where there’s nothing for any that might still hatch to eat.
      As an aside, as far as I’ve been able to tell, a dryer isn’t hot enough to kill them, although the wash water might be, depending on how hot it is. I do think that most eggs are either destroyed or removed by washing … but it never hurts to check again.

  10. I live in a high rise and the hallway carpets and wallpaper are being removed. The past few weeks I noticed a few moths, so I bought moth traps and only caught one. I have not noticed any changes to my wool sweaters so far. Summer is coming should I send my wools to the dry cleaners (I usually hand wash in cold water), if I have any moths, eggs etc. will the dry cleaning kill them? Since plastic containers are not moth proof what should I store my dry cleaned sweaters in. Thank you so much for the info.

    • Hi Christine! If the moths are coming from the carpet, it’s probably good that they’re taking it out. Dry cleaning is only better than hand washing if it removes more dirt & sweat etc. so that the moths can’t survive (they can’t actually get the nutrition they need from absolutely clean wool). I hand wash my woolens every spring, and as each round of washing dries I put it away as soon as possible. I use a suitcase to store wool clothes over the summer, I figure with the zipper tightly closed there’s no hole big enough for a moth to crawl in. I’ve also had good results using plastic tubs to store yarn, wool for spinning, etc.—just make sure there aren’t any holes in the tub (or cover them with tape) and that the lid shuts tightly. Good luck!

  11. Hi Tasha,
    Thank you so much for the information. I looked on line but could not find an answer, If I put my clothes outside, how cold does it have to be to kill the moths? I thought I would put a lot of my clothes out on my balcony over night.

    I appreciate you help!
    Chris

    • Hi Chris,

      As far as I can tell, freezing temps (below 32° F) kill adult moths and larvae. Of course, if the clothes are all packed together in a suitcase, that provides some insulation. It wouldn’t hurt to leave the suitcase out as long as it’s freezing at night where you live. I hope that helps!

  12. You need to freeze items for at least a week, then take out for a day then put back into freezer for another week. Any larvae that survive the first freeze will rally then the second time they are gone. Everything I have found says it is important to do this to make sure.

    • Hi Tima, thanks for chiming in! A friend of mine who works in a university library said that they use a similar system, only 24 hours in the freezer, 24 hours out, then 24 hours in again. I think I get a similar effect by leaving things outside where they will freeze & thaw multiple times. My only question about the one day out of the freezer is: is there a trigger that means any eggs that survive will definitely hatch within the first day of thaw? If I wanted to be extra sure, and use only the freezer method, I would probably leave things out (still sealed/in plastic) for a few days, then put them back in the freezer … at this point I think heating is the surest method, since it kills the eggs, which the freezer doesn’t. But I’m definitely up for more research!

  13. Hi there! So glad I found this post. In 2014 we found out we had a major infestation of clothes moths, and let me tell you, those jerks have expensive taste. If the price tag was $100 or higher they liked it. (Idiots even ate the inside of a good pair of my leather shoes!). They didn’t touch the cheap stuff. We believe they had laid eggs in a couch we bought new from Macy’s (of all places) and they seemed to love our clean house because they had tons of crevices to hide their tiny children in. (Plus we have cats and no matter how much I clean, they do shed.) I feel as though I logged more miles on my vacuum than my car trying to rid our lives of them.

    I spent a ton on terminix to rid our home, and they had no clue what they were doing. So after almost a year of them treating and more and more showing up, I booted them. We then found a decent exterminator who spoke to entomologists regarding the matter and she seemed to rid us of the issue. That being said, I was still finding empty squished cases every once in a while. Could they have been old and I’m just finding them now? Who knows.

    My question is this: we recently moved and while most everything had already been cleaned and put into storage tubs, my husband had a bunch of stuff from the basement he just threw in boxes and moved over without cleaning. The other day I found one of those little morons flapping in the basement and then one was on my kitchen wall. Should I be afraid we moved them or would they have just slipped in in the warm weather? I tried to vacuum everything and anything I could that was moved, especially the furniture. And would you suggest calling the exterminator again to treat as a precaution? This is a new home that I do not want covered in these little brats. If it needs to be contained it needs to be now.

    I have no tolerance for these little critters and I’m at the end of my rope after over a year of them messing with me. Hope you can help and also keep my designer suits safe too!

    • Hi Jacqueline,
      It’s possible that the moths moved with you, but it’s maybe even more likely that they were already in your new house. They’re pretty ubiquitous, and as you know they can survive on very little. If you want to get an exterminator, I don’t see any reason to wait.
      Personally, I don’t want pesticides in my house. At this point I’ve accepted that moths live here too (although you can’t call it a truce since I kill them on sight, and I still hope that whenever we finally finish remodeling they may disappear for good.) I’ve had good success protecting my treasured woolens using the methods outlined above.
      Good luck!
      PS You’re right that moths like the good stuff, anything that is pure wool. Items that you dry clean may be especially vulnerable, since they’re more likely to be put away after wearing without being cleaned.

  14. Hello Tasha, very enjoyable and informative information! We’ve lived in our home for 26 years, and never had a clothes moth problem until two years ago. I found a beautiful, large, hand knotted rug at a thrift store and brought it home. Two weeks later, I noticed several moths crawling on it. Thus began the invasion! We threw the rug out, cleaned, put clothes into sealed containers, bought moth traps (they work really well but don’t attract all the males unfortunately) and we put lavender oil on cotton balls in dressers, etc. We still have them of course. Our first thought was to contact an exterminator. We were told that we would have to essentially take clothes, rugs, tapestries, upholstered furniture, etc. out of our home and have them cleaned and stored, a huge undertaking. The exterminators would then do their thing with chemicals, and it would cost us $2,500 – with NO guarantee, they said, that this would be successful!

    The odd thing this is this: even after two years, we haven’t seen any moth damage, nor was damage evident on the rug that they likely came in with. I’ve read online that it’s possible for clothes moths to live off human hair, dirt, etc. that’s on floors, and you’re right, they do go behind baseboards. I vacuum with a wand attachment and then have the pleasure of seeing the little critters crawl out of the vacuum. Another oddity is this: the moths in our place don’t seem to dislike light. They do tend to fly around at dusk, but will also fly near lamps – not flutter around them like other moths, but certainly not avoiding them. If we watch television in the evening now, our routine consists of commenting on what we’re watching and pointing and yelling, “Kill it! Kill it!”. As an aside, I’ve read in a number of places that adults moths aren’t the ones that people should be worried about. I beg to differ. They create new ones.

    Have others who have shared their stories with you also experienced an apparent lack of damage to clothes and fabric items? We’ll continue to try to keep the moth population down, for even without apparent damage, they’re annoying – I took a book off the shelf to read in bed last night and a moth came crawling over the top of it! (If it’s any comfort to folks, Buckingham Palace has a clothes moth problem too.)

    • I was told to throw away the vacuum bag after each use. I vacuum 4 times a week (condo 1300 sq.feet) and it was starting to get costly. Now I throw the bag out every week, that seems to be ok. I know these critters like it in there, lots of dust, hair etc. I have been bringing my clothes out on the terrace every few weeks to shake them. So far have not seen any in my clothes, but one in a pocketbook, Yet catching them in the traps. I have not caught any in 2 weeks, praying that is a good sign. Thanks for all the information, so appreciated

    • Hi Gunnar, thanks for the entertaining comment!
      Most people who’ve written me have only noticed the moths after they eat something (otherwise I think it’s easy to mistake them for grain moths or other tiny critters). In my own case, as I mentioned above, I haven’t had any clothes moth damage in years, even though I see them and I know they’re still around my house. They’re eating something and hiding somewhere, but having cleaned everything I could I’m at a bit of a stalemate—hoping that by killing the ones I see and depriving them of stored woolens to eat I’m slowly reducing the population. Since what I really care about is that they don’t eat the things I care about, I’m happy with this system. I’ve also seen that, especially on fuzzy items, the moths can eat along the surface, not making holes or visible damage, but still getting enough to keep them going.
      The fact that they’re in Buckingham Palace doesn’t surprise me at all, I think they would be nearly impossible to get rid of in a huge historic building!

  15. I have a similar issue to that of the previous 2 posters in that I have clothes moths but have not found any damaged garments. My first problem began last summer when I began seeing moths in my small 1 bedroom condo near the kitchen. Of course I initially believed they somehow flew in from outdoors and smashed them and thought nothing of it. As time went on the problem became more pronounced. I initially thought they might be food moths but being all gold they looked nothing like them. I began cleaning out all my kitchen cabinets, finding dead moths inside bowels, vases, etc., as well as and these tan-colored “mystery crumbs” waaaay in the back. It wasn’t until I reached the last cabinet that I found a commemorative Coke bottle leaking on some cotton dinner napkins, and the messy source of the problem. Inside the hinges of the cabinet they had spun cocoons and made an awful mess that looked like a cat had been living back there. Once I cleaned the area the moths went away. Until now.

    It’s 8 months later and they’re back. I live in Southern California where the weather is mild year-round, so believe this must be a fresh infestation. It probably doesn’t help that one of my nearby neighbors mentioned she has lots of moths (!!). I’ve laid traps and caught a few, primarily in the area of my kitchen and living room and once again I found the “mystery crumbs” in my kitchen cabinets so I believe the source must be nearby. I’ve been cleaning profusely for a week and completely emptied my closet and took all my shirts, suits, slacks to the cleaners–the rack is empty. I haven’t even picked them up yet and most now a moth flew by! Clearly I haven’t found the source. I have a 12′ long entertainment center bolted to the wall that sits about 1′ from the wall. My cat once believed it was his sanctuary and I see dust and fur in there that may be near-impossible to access without destroying the custom unit; however, I’m running out of places to look. I doubt the moths would be attracted to the insulation from the dishwasher, but pet hair is probably more likely. I have a couple more places to look but am running out of ideas. I read here already they don’t subside on paper. My place is cleaner than it ever has been but I can’t keep throwing things away in hope that the moths might go with it! Exterminators are of limited value unless you can point to the source, and that’s my problem.

    • Hi Nick! To be honest I’m not sure these are clothes moths … they need protein to survive, which is why they eat animal fibers in the first place. They can definitely eat cat hair, but shouldn’t be interested in spilled Coke or cotton napkins. The “crumbs” are probably frass (bug poo), which most moths leave no matter what they’re eating. Cleaning things out and taking your clothes to the cleaners are good steps. When you get them back, make sure to store any wool/cashmere garments in a container which seals tightly enough to keep the moths out (no holes). That way at least you won’t need to worry about your clothes getting eaten, and hopefully you’ll figure out what’s up with the moths, whether they’re eating pet hair or your food. Good luck!

  16. Hi Tasha. Thanks for your informative and detailed posts.

    When we first moved into our first condo couple years back, we noticed some bugs and didn’t realize they were clothes moths. We had a lot of them and just killed them as we saw them. Like the above posters, we never saw ANY damage to our clothing at all. We cleaned the entire place and could not for the life of us find where they were coming from. They loved our bath towels even when we were constantly using them and washing them (eeck!!) because when we squashed, they would leave that shiny, tan residue (ICK!). They would be on our bedroom walls every now and then. We had cleaners even come in and couldn’t find anywhere that they were stemming from. No eggs and larvae that we ever noticed either. After 2.5 years living there, we had to move out as the owner sold the unit, and we found a new place. I’m pretty sure we didn’t bring them with us (but who knows right?) as we cleaned and thoroughly scanned all our clothing before we moved. When we got to the new place, it was much older..holes in the walls, scratches on the floor that we didn’t notice during the showing unfortunately. The old tenant also had a dog and when we moved in, we noticed it wasn’t cleaned very well. There’s also Silverfish near the kitchen, bathroom and under the walls (that’s a whole other story). The day we moved in, I already noticed a moth flying around. I was so disappointed. Was hoping to get away from those nasty critters but alas, here we are. We live in a loft, and with our bedroom upstairs – I noticed that’s where all the moths were heading (into the closet where all our clothes were). When we turn on the lights, they would flutter around (not a lot – maybe 1-2 every night). I try to kill as much as I can. I even sprayed the entire closet with flea spray (Siphotrol). The last tenant left some moth traps for us and I KNEW they had a problem as well. I even talked to the landlord and she said to keep the windows closed (UGH!). I’ve been trying to find out where they are coming from again, I looked in our closet – took all the clothes out and put them on our bed (saw a moth fly out – couldn’t kill it😦 ) I fully inspected the carpet and crevices and the corners – but I see nothing. Maybe 1-2 dead carcasses of full clothes moth adults but no eggs or larvae.

    I see 1-2 from from time to time in our bathroom towels (bathroom is now downstairs though in the loft) but there’s definitely more in the closet. Not a big infestation but I see like 1-2 a day. Every time I turn on the light, they start to fly and try to get away from it.

    I have no idea where they are coming or spawning from.. and I’m not sure what to do. I bought some Greenway Traps that attract both male and female clothes moths so I’m waiting on that but currently I’m stumped on really what to do.😦

    • Hi Amanda, and sorry for your moth troubles.

      It certainly sounds like the moths were there when you moved in (they were in my house too). Does your new (older) place have carpet? Old carpets sometimes are made of wool and/or have a wool pad underneath, and if moths get established in one of those they can just keep eating for ages. If there’s any old upholstered furniture (or newer furniture if it’s stuffed with feathers or wool) they could be coming from there as well. The eggs are basically too small to see, but you should see cases—little tunnels or tents that look like they’re made from spiderwebs—and probably adult moths crawling around if you find the source.

      Other than that you’re doing all the right things; cleaning, killing the moths you see, and putting out the traps. If there’s no major place for them to feed, repeating those things should get the numbers down over time. Obviously you’ll need to be careful how you store any wool clothes in the meantime. If you still can’t find the source and it’s driving you nuts, you could try a professional heat treatment like is used to get rid of bedbugs, that should be enough heat to kill them, and it’s not toxic.

      The good news is: I can’t see any reason to keep the windows closed. Unless you live next to an old wool mill or something that’s totally infested with moths, the odds of them flying in from outside are super low—they live where there are things for them to eat. They’re not the same as the little light-seeking moths that flutter around outside at night.

      Good luck!

    • PS If you do decide to use insecticides, make sure you choose one that includes clothes moths on the label. I don’t know much about those chemicals, but I do know that not all of them work on all bugs.

  17. Hi Tasha,
    Thank you for all the wonderful tips and strategies in dealing with clothing moths. I have found many of my questions answered with your posts. However, I do have a question about the oven method. I just put two exercise wool sweaters in the oven as they are part
    of the reinfestaion I discovered two days ago. I have no concern about them as many holes and the wool can be washed regularly.

    I had a very severe infestation 4 months ago in 3 closets. It was overwhelming to say the least and after much dry cleaning, washing
    and vacuuming I thought they were gone. Oh dear not the case and so discouraging. However, finding your site has helped a lot.
    Unfortunately, they have attacked my very good cashmere cardigan. Will the fine wool items like this be okay in the oven? Have you
    experienced any shrinkage from this method? Just a bit nervous to try until I hear from you.
    Thanks.
    Sandy

    • Hi Sandy,

      I wouldn’t worry about shrinkage in the oven, only about scorching. If you keep the oven temp pretty low, and avoid having anything touch the oven walls, it should be Ok, particularly if your exercise sweaters came out fine with the method you used. An alternative would be to steam your sweater in a pot over boiling water, like you would a vegetable. The moist heat is kind to wool/cashmere fibers, but if the fabric has never been steamed during its construction or cleaning before, it could shrink slightly. Make sure not to agitate it while its hot, or let the boiling water wick up into the fabric. Another alternative would be to have to dry cleaned. Or you could hand wash it with a long soak, then once it’s dry freeze/thaw/freeze to kill off any eggs that aren’t washed off. In any case, you have options!

      In my experience, the most important thing is careful (ie moth-proof) storage of any woolens that are left alone for a while. That way even if the moths come back, you know they won’t eat your precious clothes.

      Good luck!
      Tasha

  18. Hey Tasha or anyone that has any input –

    I threw away 2 vacuums (they were cheaper than your average high end vacuum) due to not wanting to deal with what was inside – yes moths were breeding and I saw larvae in there. UGH. I just threw away one that was quite new. They were both bagless. I am now going out to buy one that is bagged canister vacuum. My question is – I can just throw away the vacuum bag after awhile right? The moths won’t be breeding in the tubes and other areas of the vacuum? The reason I am now buying a bagged vacuum is because of the moths as I don’t want to deal with moths breeding in bagless vacuums. In buying a bagged vacuum – do I need to check other areas? If so, which areas and hopefully this adds into solving my problem.

    • So from the point of view of controlling the infestation, either type of vacuum would work, as long as you empty it regularly. With vacuum bags you might be more likely to remove all the moth eggs/larvae when you get rid of the bag, but you still need to do that before they can mature (because adults could fly out). I would change the bag every couple of weeks if you’re dealing with a lot of moths right now. Check the rest of the vacuum to see if there are any spots besides the bag where the stuff you vacuum up can accumulate, since the moths will hang out where there’s food for them, and if so, clean those out when you change the bag.
      I hope that helps!

      • I was told to discard the bag after every vacuuming. An expensive and wasteful thing to do, but it makes sense I guess. Also, larvae hatching in the bag and then crawling out isn’t the only problem. I’ve seen adult moths that were sucked into the bag crawl out of them! Weird that they can survive the whole experience. We store our vacuum on a porch, or in an unheated back hall in the winter, to minimize the chance of moths in the vac from reentering.

        • The thing is I vacuum every other day when I shower because I shed a ton of hair.. so throwing out the bag every time I vacuum is a huge waste.. I’ll be careful not to have them fly out.. or at least try but definitley will throw out the bag more often than normal.

          Also live in a small condo so need to keep the vac in storage area.😐

  19. Today, I found a larvae under my IKEA laundry basket.. there was just one.. and I scanned the area for more, but couldn’t find any.. should I be worried that there is a nest around? I’ve look all around and don’t see anything else moving … ugh.

    • Hmm, the larvae don’t usually travel very far. If there’s nothing for it to eat under the basket it probably wasn’t living there … my first guess is that it came into the basket on a piece of clothing and fell off … but it’s hard to know. I would definitely vacuum the area, clean out the basket and wash whatever’s in there, etc. If you see more larvae around there then they’re probably feeding on something nearby.

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